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In this episode Damon speaks to Kelsey Crowe, Ph.D., author of There is No Good Card for This: What to do and say when life is scary, awful and, unfair to the people you love. Kelsey and Damon discuss what stops us from asking for help, how to show up for people who are suffering, and coping with grief at work.   

What do you say to a colleague who is grieving? Whether someone is experiencing a personal or professional setback, it’s tempting to shy away from uncomfortable topics. This episode will help you approach these important conversations and minimize the fear of saying the wrong thing. 

This episode originally appeared as part of Working through it series. Check out the series for more tips and stories of people navigating periods of transition.

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